Zionists, White Nationalists, & Class War
I tweeted about this a while back (I really didn’t have much else to say at the time)- but Vox Day’s article got me thinking…
From the article I linked to:
Youth gangs from the community of Sudanese and Eritrean refugees have in recent weeks been swamping Tel Aviv beaches and stealing bathers’ belongings, according to police. Most of the thefts have occurred on Tel Aviv’s major beaches. Authorities attribute the thefts to the increase in the number of refugees who have come to the city this year, and the lack of employment opportunities for them.
And from Vox Day’s preferred source:
Illegal infiltrators threaten Israel’s character as a Jewish and democratic country, Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu said at the beginning of the weekly cabinet meeting on Sunday. Calling the issue “very grave” and a threat to the “social fabric,” Netanyahu said, “If we do not stop the entry, the problem, there are now 60,000 illegal infiltrators; could easily grow to 600,000 illegal infiltrators. This would inundate the state and, to a considerable degree, cancel out its image as a Jewish and democratic state.”
As I’ve said before, I don’t buy that a Jewish Conspiracy is controlling the West. Conspiracies have too many moving parts. They require too much control of information. And quite frankly, if there actually were a conspiracy, its behaviour wouldn’t be as Discracefully Stupid as what we’re actually seeing.
Frankly, the reason there are so many left-wing Jews working to degrade our culture is A) Jews, as a whole, are highly intelligent and thus gravitate towards positions of prominence, and B) all the right-wing Jews are busy being productive members of society. It ain’t a conspiracy; it’s a structural flaw in our society. Democracy leads to the promotion of Any and All left-leaning, social deconstructionist movements, and in that sense at least it’s colour blind.
The fact that Israel is suffering the same sort of Demographic Decline as the West is that theory’s nail in the coffin; and as Vox Day pointed out, it’s fun to imagine the mental gymnastics that pro-immigration Zionists are now going through. But the important thing to remember, is that All of This Nonsense boils down to Identity Politics. For the left-wing, cultural marxist, Crusader – Identity is Everything.
It doesn’t matter who-or-what you are specifically, so long as you label yourself as an Outsider. You can be a sexual minority, an ethnic minority, a lifestyle minority, or one of the economically ‘disenfranchised’ – it’s all about applying a label which shows how you’re Unique, Different, and Oppressed, and that you stand against the Majority (that ever shrinking fraction of society).
That is how you get ahead in politics.
My opposition to White Nationalism goes beyond mere conspiracies, however. As many have noted in the Men’s Rights community, White Nationalists are frequently White Knights in disguise: Feminism is evil and jooish, but get married anyway to procreate the White race! I could sit down with a White Nationalist, and we could agree on every Fact under the sun, and yet our political prescriptions will remain irreconcileably divergent.
It is because we are using different Heuristics.
I am a Reactionary; I don’t believe in poppycock like the Divine Source of Human Rights, or the coming Utopia. I believe in math, materialism, and rationality; and that the universe is fundamentally hostile to Beings such as ourselves. Fundamentally – I believe in non-belief. Austrian Economics can largely be summed up as “I don’t know how it works; best to leave it alone.” The same can be said for breeding patterns and culture. “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.” Marriage is what happens in a free market; divorce is the result of state intervention. And if I’m wrong on that – well, then, maybe we shouldn’t have marriage. I believe in staying out of other people’s business.
White Nationalists, on the other hand, are Marxists.
There are two things which stand out to me in Orwell’s 1984; first is the necessity of conflict, the ever-shifting war between the three great powers. Marxism thrives on this; conflictt is how it compels obedience. Not through inspiration, accomplishment, or plain old Leadership – but through fear. It requires the eternal opponent, it demands that you focus on the enemy, in the hopes that you’ll never think to look behind you and notice the puppetmasters pulling the strings…
Second of all, I notice the sheer incompetence of the puppetmasters. Communist Dictatorships are not run by Ubermenschs; they’re run by the sort of vile types you’ll find in Middle Management, and as Career Corporals. A Man of Quality disappears into Galt’s Gulch, or he guides an army of followers through his heroic actions. They don’t have to manipulate and lie; and the last thing they want to do is break your legs and sell you a crutch. They demand competence, not dependence, from their soldiers. But to the Marxist, such qualities inspire a terrifying introspection. They resent the greatness of others, they resent genius and accomplishment, thus do they seek an Enemy to blame for their failings.
Thus do they demand that all be their slaves.
And that – at its core – is White Nationalism. It is most certainly not the simple argument that the White race deserves to exist, and have the opportunity to thrive; rather, it is the demand that all whites sublimate themselves to the ideology, and blame all failings upon the enemy. It’s just another form of Identity Politics, premised upon warfare, lashing out with the same childish rage you see in Feminists and Race Baiters.
It is a movement for losers. And I want no part in it.
This article is a classic strawman. “White Nationalism isn’t about preserving the heritage and culture of a people, it’s about [INSERT STRAWMAN]. And I’m opposed to White Nationalism because [INSERT REFUTATION OF STRAWMAN].
And as for the Jew thing…
Even when you subtract the fact that Jews are a natural and effective Mercantile Minority who behave as such in our society, there’s still a deeply rooted animosity and an organized opposition to the host culture which is not present in other Mercantile Minorities.
The word “conspiracy” is a weasel word which implies silly Elders of Zion fantasies. A simple conversation with your nearest neighborhood Jew will likely reveal an altogether unnecessary and inappropriate visceral contempt for White Christian heritage and culture. It stems from very deep theological and culture roots and their giftedness and success as a people empower them to translate what had previously been impotent hatred into an active policy of soft genocide.
And even if Hipster Fascism compelled me to disregard that…Jews would still be a separate tribe with a separate identity, history, and future. In a way, I have too much respect for Jewishness to go along with cheesy proposals that Jews and their hosts merge into a seamless multicultural milieu.
Ed: It’s far from a strawman. Just yesterday, I was reading a thread on StormFront where they were trying to destroy RooshV for “ruining all ‘dem white women”. RooshV is Arab, apparently, but he’s not some muslim bent on degrading Western culture. Quite the opposite, actually; he writes the truth, and has even touched on race a couple of times, if I recall. But StormFront can’t see past the colour of his skin.
Also, you’ll note I never said that Jews could integrate seemlessly. I was refuting a conspiracy argument I’ve heard many, many times.
I don’t think I’m describing you in this article – but I am most definitely describing a wide swath of the WN community. You’re not going to get rid of them; do you really want to claim to be on the same team?
For two decades I worked in Jewish dominated industry. Thanks to a badly broken nose, an IQ on the far right end of the bell curve and a first name that was right out of the Old Testament it was assumed that I was one of them and for the sake of my career I did nothing to disabuse them of that notion.
If you don’t believe that the word conspiracy applies to how Jews behave behind the scenes then you’ll need to come up with a more fitting term for it because they actively, ceaselessly, tirelessly and dutifully work towards a Jewish supremacist world view at the expense of everything else including money. They would rather lose a small fortune in order to promote an outcome that is best for Jews than to make a large fortune by promoting a competing world view.
The things I heard and saw changed me from being a passive, non-judgmental, inclusion promoting multiculturalist into an ardent and unflinching WN. They hate us with a visceral passion that makes the average KKK’er look like Kim Kardashian by comparison and they make zero effort to conceal their contempt when they believe they are in the company of a fellow tribe member. Are there exceptions? Probably, but I haven’t run into any of them.
Do I have a lot in common with the typical SFer? Hardly, but I would rather live in a world populated by them than the alternative- like the one we live in today. And frankly I am sick unto death of hearing about the superior intelligence of the Jew because if the end product of their machinations is the bankrupted, flash mobbed, drug addled, porno pushing, homo obsessed hellhole on earth America has become then intelligence has nothing to do with it.
Conspiracies exist. The majority of prisoners in the US Federal prison system are doing time for conspiracy to commit a crime, not the actual crime itself (DOJ stats). If your premise is that only low life criminals are capable of conspiring then you might want to rethink your premise.
Thanks.
I don’t know how to say this without coming off like an ass, but I don’t know how else to say it. My being smarter more knowledgeable, and more tactful than most people who care about the fate of our tribe is not an opportunity for status posturing on my part…It’s an opportunity for stewardship.
Besides, if I went through the trouble of defining a new team and met with success, it would soon be infiltrated by FBI agents deliberately acting retarded to be honey traps for entrapment projects, venomous media smear campaigns, and people who aren’t as smart as me (bless their hearts). In other words, I would be right back where I started.
The Marxist view of conflict is class war – that because people are so different, they will naturally come into conflict and oppress one another. Good v Evil.
The Shakespearean one is that because people are so similar, and have goals and jobs so are so close to in purpose that they fight on how it will be carried out. They fight over who has the right vision for the world. And as they fight, they grow similar.
MRA fight feminists, and they become alike. Rigging juries, losing their sense of humor.
WN fight ghost jews, and become similar still.
Shakespeare is usually closer to the truth.
“White Nationalists, on the other hand, are Marxists.
There are two things which stand out to me in Orwell’s 1984; first is the necessity of conflict, the ever-shifting war between the three great powers. Marxism thrives on this; conflictt is how it compels obedience. Not through inspiration, accomplishment, or plain old Leadership – but through fear. It requires the eternal opponent, it demands that you focus on the enemy, in the hopes that you’ll never think to look behind you and notice the puppetmasters pulling the strings…”
Replace WN for Jewish Neocons/Liberals and you be right.
now this is just bizarre. Someone gave me a link to a YouTube video saying that Palestine is not an occupied nation because it never war a nation. I’ve pointed out the fallacy in saying such a thing, that they have a common Arab descent, a common language, a common flag and identity. By your retarded logic, the Israelis should also not have a nation. The same could be said of the many nation states created in Europe during the 1848 Spring of Nations. This is his reply:
“Who needs nations ? Free the globe of all human interferance so it can return to a pristine and natural state of existance.”
Ha! Nothing is more hilarious to me than the delusional religion of the noble savage. Either he is a fool, or a sneaky leftie. Or maybe a Zionist? Hmm…
I have from a family member the whole story how jews took over her workplace company (one of my country’s biggest software company). They took over the company and: took my sources’ chief citing him for “interrogation” using a 2 metres 110 kilo goon to pressure him to falsify the books for a whole spectrum of software (what the student employee had to do physically, as he was close to my source he confessed it to her), lots of other stuff going on to the point where my source talked to a co-employee about it and only got a shaking: “you don’t ever mention this again!”.
Now you can wait until you experience jewish criminal tribalism, or you can listen to what former tribesmen say about them: Look for Benjamin Freedman speech at the willard hotel.
And to come closer to the dynamics of it all, look for Prof. Kevin MacDonald explaining some aspects of it.
Finally look for Prof. Roger Dommergue (ex-jew) on youtube interview: There he lifts the veil on jewish tribalism and its background, which has an angle most would not suspect… Check it out.
I wrote this because the article is written with rational argument, yet it lacks insight only very few people did provide over the decades, some of which I did mention…
Wow! I am stunned by your 2-faced nature. I found your page from a random link while reading about the destructive nature of feminism today. I was impressed by the slaying of this sacred cow, which, imo, took courage, honesty, & intelligence. I read 2 then 3 then 4 of your articles and found myself nodding in agreement until this page. Apparently feminism can be handled with candor but when the question of jewish influence is raised you show your true colors. Cowardly, dishonest, & servile. I imagine it’s a risk vs reward issue for you, taking on the feminist issue honestly invites only slight backlash and could invite success, influence & other rewards. Taking on the jewish issue honestly invites the likelyhood of being ruined financially, legally, socially. So, you play ball and whitewash jewery’s crimes and slander honest White people. You lost credibility, all of it, and that’s what matters. I’m relieved you exposed yourself as a fraud before I looked at your book.
“White Nationalism. It is most certainly not the simple argument that the White race deserves to exist, and have the opportunity to thrive;”
Please, do tell me what you would call that argument? Loser.
Wow! I am stunned by your sudden reversal from stepping up & exposing uncomfortable truths to promoting the same tired old politically correct lies. I guess it’s true what they say “If you seek those who are in power, look to those who cannot be criticized”. I found your page from a random link while reading about the destructive nature of feminism today. I was impressed by the slaying of this sacred cow, which, imo, took courage, honesty, & intelligence. I read 2 then 3 then 4 of your articles and found myself nodding in agreement until this page. Apparently feminism can be handled with candor but when the question of jewish influence is raised you show your true colors: Cowardly, dishonest, & servile.
I imagine it’s a risk vs reward issue for you, honestly taking on the feminist issue invites only slight backlash and could invite success, influence & other rewards. Taking on the jewish issue with honesty invites the likelyhood of being ruined financially, legally, socially, and worse. So, you play ball and whitewash jewery’s crimes and smear the parties that speak the truth about jews. You lost credibility, all of it. There’s no reason to continue reading your posts knowing you have as much integrity as the MSM. I’m relieved you exposed yourself as a fraud before I looked at your book.
“White Nationalism. It is most certainly not the simple argument that the White race deserves to exist, and have the opportunity to thrive;”
Please, do tell me what you would call that simple argument?
Ed: I call them like I see them, bud, and under my real name; I suppose you want me to denounce Benjamin Disraeli, while supporting the (probably) Jewish owners of Stormfront? Sorry I’m not your ideological soul mate.
No, I don’t think we are ideologically similar at all. Which isn’t the issue here. The issue is intellectual honesty. What does it matter which ideology you champion if you have to resort to rhetoric & logical fallacies to support it?
And I do appreciate your response, but you have sidestepped the issue and my single question:
“White Nationalism. It is most certainly not the simple argument that the White race deserves to exist, and have the opportunity to thrive;”
Please, do tell me what you would call that simple argument?
Interesting perspective. Typo: conflict should have one t not two.
Good. The less “Return of Kings” types we have in the pro-White community, the better.